Line Of Fire – Cambrai 1917 – Part One of Five

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A docu about the Battle of Cambrai in 1917.



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  1. tertommy on July 12, 2012 at 9:54 pm said:

    sorry, but after the initial shock of the Mark IV’s wore off tank hunting became a favorite German infantry activity. Much like the Stuka in WW2, after the shock of the terrible sound it made in a bombing run wore off it was realized that the Stuka was a slow vulnerable airplane.

  2. martynrobin121 on July 12, 2012 at 10:42 pm said:

    The Germans used to run away from the Tanks, Thinking they were monsters.

  3. tertommy on July 12, 2012 at 11:05 pm said:

    Germans loved hunting tanks, using a sack of grenades the infantry would rush tanks and put bags into tank tracks and ignite the bags.

  4. MrShaneVicious on July 12, 2012 at 11:46 pm said:

    Cambrai was actually much needed for the British , as it allowed them to test out new tactics

  5. jed371 on July 13, 2012 at 12:46 am said:

    Same old rubbish myths that have been destroyed by modern scholarship. Haig was actually a very capable commander, who accepted new techniques and technologies. hedeveloped the British army into the most modern force in the world

  6. Andiish08 on July 13, 2012 at 1:30 am said:

    Did the bells ring in Germany on the 30/11?

  7. mdgarciasa on July 13, 2012 at 1:58 am said:

    Line of fire, one of my all time favorites… are the series available on dvd?

  8. guysmiley00 on July 13, 2012 at 2:09 am said:

    Alright, you’re going to have to give a source if you’re going to claim that a 5-year blockade did nothing for 4 years and then killed almost 3/4 of a million civilians in the last few months, because logically that just doesn’t make a lick of sense.

  9. ultradumbass on July 13, 2012 at 2:17 am said:

    what contradiction? the germans could not win with their hands tied up eat. it was similar to napoleon knowing that prussians arriving at waterloo on time would cause him the battle, had his commander grouchy returned on time he may well have won but they were not fast enough. the germans knew they would lose or be stalemated without temporary neutralisation of the eastern front and would bring their armies back eact once they finished the western armies. go read a book mate.

  10. ultradumbass on July 13, 2012 at 2:19 am said:

    uhhhhhh no the civilians only died after the war due to british taking away resources. the french planned to take EVERYTHING from the germans. now you claim i am talking out of my ass because i actually know how to educate myself? i am surprised you are a canadian like me, but who am i kidding, canadians i find to be just as pathetic as anyone else. considering we are stupid enough to support ultra left wing views around here.

  11. guysmiley00 on July 13, 2012 at 2:29 am said:

    What? The German blockade was incredibly severe – even food was defined as “contraband”. At least 763 000 Germans civilians starved to death. By 1915, German imports were already down by 55% and exports by 47%. By 1917, the average German was getting 1000 calories a day – half the minimum necessary, resulting in widespread outbreaks of diseases like scurvy, TB, and dysentery. I’m soryy, but you’re completely talking out of your ass here.

  12. guysmiley00 on July 13, 2012 at 3:09 am said:

    Germany allowed Lenin to pass to foment revolution in Russia, because they needed Russia to fall due to said revolution, so that they could bring the troops over from the Eastern front to quickly finish the war in the West, because the revolution that Lenin HAD NOT YET ASSISTED IN CAUSING would soon sweep in from the East?

    So, the Germans had to rush Lenin in to cause the Revolution so they could defend against the Revolution that hadn’t started yet. Can you see the contradiction?

  13. ultradumbass on July 13, 2012 at 3:55 am said:

    canadians were commanded by arthur currie. canada was its own national army. though they were attached to the british 1st army while the divisions were being formed up, they still fought their own battles and made their own decisions.

  14. ultradumbass on July 13, 2012 at 4:05 am said:

    also the germans were not in a severe blockade. the allies blockaded them even after the war finished, plus ordered them to pay billions of dollars which caused a famine. england was itself under their worst famine since the potato famine, however the allies would either have yielded france or given germany a more favourable treaty. also passchendaele still had some good objectives. taking passchendaele made it harder for the germans to reach the coast and cut off reinforcements.

  15. ultradumbass on July 13, 2012 at 4:40 am said:

    germans did not assist lenin. they let him pass through so that he could cause revolution in russia. they already knew lenin was dangerous however they figured if they caused a revolution, 750,000 german soldiers, and millions of other allies including turks, bulgarians could focus more on the western allies. the germans knew they had to win the fight fast or the revolution would sweep eastwards into germany.

  16. guysmiley00 on July 13, 2012 at 5:36 am said:

    Haig was pretty darned incompetent. He spent the whole war refusing to recognize that the power of the defense was now greater than that of the offense, and bled Britain white vainly trying to play the dashing cavalry officer at the head of a glorious charge. Playing defense while bringing the full might of British manpower and industry to the continent would have been the proper strategy, but it wasn’t sexy enough for Haig.

  17. guysmiley00 on July 13, 2012 at 6:12 am said:

    Except that Americans still weren’t in Europe in any real numbers by the time of the final German offensive. And war on the Eastern front had not yet ended by the time of Cambrai. Germany was never in a position to launch an offensive in the West in the fall of 1917. Cambrai was another rushed, ill-planned attack that merely gave Germany notice of new British tactics and sapped manpower that would be needed for defense in the spring . Haig was trying to save his own neck.

  18. guysmiley00 on July 13, 2012 at 7:00 am said:

    The Germans actually did very well against the overwhelming and encircling forces arrayed against them. Their biggest weakness was incredibly poor judgment in choosing allies.

  19. guysmiley00 on July 13, 2012 at 8:00 am said:

    Communist revolutions would never have hit Western Europe before the East, simply because revolutions only ever occur when populations feel they have no peaceful political option for change. Therefore, any such uprisings would necessarily strike the more autocratic Russian and German societies before the more democratic British and French ones.

    If anything, the Russian revolution strengthened the Germans – it certainly didn’t make them more vulnerable to a revolution of their own.

  20. guysmiley00 on July 13, 2012 at 8:26 am said:

    What part of wasting hundreds of thousands of lives in unnecessary and ill-planned offensives helped the Allied war effort? Germany, being the aggressor and prepared for war, needed a quick end to the conflict – time was on the Allied side, as it let them bring trained men and the products of industry onto the continent. The rapid disintegration of Austria-Hungary added to the time pressure on the Central Powers. Haig ignored this due to a personal desire for glory.

  21. guysmiley00 on July 13, 2012 at 8:32 am said:

    This is really dubious. Germany was crumbling because of the British naval blockade – that’s why they had to surrender. Sure, they had armies in the field, but had the war continued, the industry that equipped and fed those armies would quickly have vanished, and the armies would then have been helpless. German leaders wisely recognized this.

    And if Germany was so threatened by a Communist revolution in Russia, why did they lend so much assistance to it?

  22. ultradumbass on July 13, 2012 at 9:04 am said:

    nobody won the first world war. it is considered an interrupted war since the allies suddenly became more concerned about communist revolutions spreading civil wars across european nations. the germans only asked for the armistice first since the revolution came from russia eastwards hitting germany and the central powers first. had the revolution occurred in western europe then germans would be saying that they won the war when we would want to defend our own territory.

  23. billybob7ful on July 13, 2012 at 9:47 am said:

    haig wasn’t an idiot. thats just a popular myth. his decisions in fact saved the allies from crumbling at repeated german offences. Its possible to argue that haig won the war for the allies

  24. billybob7ful on July 13, 2012 at 10:29 am said:

    if popular history is to be believed then every single french, german and british general took stupid pills at the start of ww1. the truth is, they did the best they could in the worst possible situation

  25. ZemplinTemplar on July 13, 2012 at 10:44 am said:

    Even Haig wasn’t as incompetent as they tend to portrait him. But he did make several inane decisions.

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